Anyone seen the latest fluid?

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By
Clumsy on Friday, December 4, 1998 - 06:31 pm:

have you ever heard of the new group fluid? yeah, they're so cool and they art is so original and
cool. WRONG, it's all a gyp, go get the purg #20 pack and then check the fluid #1 pack, notice that over 60% ofthe art is purg art? aha, well, this group was started by some member in purg that tee_are of purg chose togive a chance in the art scene, and guess what? he took that opportunity to rip the purg art group, i dont think that's very fair, so, purg has decided to start an anti-fluid campaign, please join us in our boycott for the better art group


By Dangermouse on Friday, December 4, 1998 - 06:32 pm:

As far as I can tell, only like two-three ppl are dual grouping, and three of the pieces of art which also appear in purg actually say "fluid" on them..

Am I missing something?


By God among lice on Saturday, December 5, 1998 - 01:15 am:

Yea... I don't really understand what this is about either. Even if the art was originally supposed to be for purg and the people left for a new group and put the fluid logo on it instead, that's there prerogative.. it's their art and they left for a reason or are dualing.. whatever.

Explain in a better way why you're upset. You haven't really explained much.


By Dieznyik on Sunday, December 6, 1998 - 03:03 am:

apparently the stuff purg is objecting to is the fact that the dual groupers released specific stuff for purg in purg and different stuff for fluid in fluid... but the leader took the peoples art out of the purg pack and put it in fluid to beef it up.

other nyarfs include jandor's inexplicable rip of alt.ascii.art fodder (the lion king and donald duck in ascii). jandor doesnt exactly admit to anything more but 'being lazy' and there seems to be some mention of the group leader having put those asciis in under jandor's name but that makes even less sense... just looks like jandor ripped disney toon ascii from some nameless artist =)

crap.


By Tee_are on Monday, December 7, 1998 - 07:56 am:

My problem is exactly that. Starks took the works directly out of the Purg 20th Release. These works, saying Fluid or not, were submitted to Purg for release. They were released, then taken out of the Purg Release, and put in the Fluid Release. If you don't understand this time? I don't know how to better explain that.


By Dangermouse on Monday, December 7, 1998 - 01:53 pm:

Well if he did that then I can understand why your pissed off.. Did the various members of the group who's work was submitted have any say in it?

Obviously not by the sounds of it.


By Starks on Friday, December 11, 1998 - 03:17 pm:

my Side
This is Starks talking.
Like you all have heard, tee_are has accuse me on stealing stuff from Purg's
pack to Fluid's so this is my side in the story.
Well... I didn't.
The 6 files that we are talking about are: Jd-dduck.Asc, Jd-lking.Asc,
Jd-pftw.Asc, Ta!flu1.Jpg, Ta!flu2.Jpg and Ta!flu3.Jpg.
Those 6 files are in each pack but...
I didn't stole those stuff from Purg's pack, The Artists Jandor and Trance gave
me auth to use those 6 files.
So what if Purg released first? Just because they released first, doesn't give
them the right of taking files that fluid got first!
Here's a log about the auth that Jandor gave me...

> <Starks> Jan, Well... I am waiting for your stuff in Fluid man!
> <Jandor> Chill Starks, I will send you some of my stuff by your e-mail and if not, use the ones you have and like.
> <Starks> Oh well.
(I've forgot to log the log between me and jandor but this is what jandor and I
said)

Here's the 2 E-mails that Trance wrote for me

Before Purg released:

> ive got 3 made, ill make atleast one or 2 more depending on when you
> need them by, when do you need them?

> -trance

After Purg released:

> erm, ta!fluid1 ta!fluid2 and ta!fluid3 are for fluid but tR was begging
> me for work and i didnt wanna let him down after clumsy left so i sent
> him those. ill send em to you next time on irc.

> trance

So like you can see, I ain't guilty and the story is oppisate(=tee_are stole
the 6 files from Fluid to Purg)
To tell you the true, I were able to sow tee_are but I didn't.
Why? Because I was greatful to tee_are / purg because they were the first art
group that ever excepted me.
This is what I can say for my defense. I am innocent and I hope you realized
that and if you didn't, though luck because
I am really innocent and tee_are is guilty!
When a logo say "Fluid", It is for Fluid, Final!

Ps. I think that it's bad what tee_are did because he didn't gave Fluid a
chanse so how will a new art group will do? tee_are has been just trying
to kill Fluid and that's really not cool because how would he felt if I was
trying to kill Purg? I will tell you how, he was freaked up. so like you
can see you all need to chose my side my side in the story even if tee_are
has been longer time then I did on the scene. Hope this story won't be
remember in the future because we all want what's best for each of the two
groups (even I). Hope you will enjoy our next packs more then this one.

GooD-BYe