Heya.. nappy here. I had this weird idea today walking through the joyously slushy, icy, and overall dangerous streets of manhattan. It might be a stupid idea, but i want your input anyway. What do you think of a month in the scene with a theme? Confused?
I think that'd a god damn kickass thing to do. It would certainly add some liveliness to the scene, that's for sure..
I'm up for it
woo.. I think it's an awesome idea.. but.. has the scene as a whole ever been able to get together on anything? If it is possible. it might be just the thing to shake off some of the cobwebs and add some new life to those of us that are getting just a tad bored =)
i'm in too :)
hot chicks
It's a great idea! Let's just hope we can pull it through...
je.. draw for the diffrent seasons =)
Ok, I'm up for it. How are we going to go about choosing a topic? I think that because of the weather for most of us lately, we should all do pictures that have ice in them. =))
it shouldn't be any "scene cliche" it should be something original. Like...... uhm, maybe art about popular tv, movie, and music? Or make it computer related, everything has to have some reference to computers? or... uhm, maybe fine arts? (although we should prolly do something more original)... hmmmmmm... nature/wildlife? or.. maybe everyone draw something pertaining to where they life?, I'm sure we'd see alot of diverse/unique stuff?
i think that'd be phat :) didn't dark once do a starwars pack? but you're asking the scene to participate in something, and that's like trying to get a bunch of drunken monkeys to paint a barn.
Just get the head honcho dudes from each group to agree on a topic, and get their artists to draw about it.. Shouldn't be that hard :)
I think it's pretty stupid to pick a specific topic like star wars or (this is quite honestly the stupidest idea I've ever heard) gummi bears.
I gotta agree with Lice there. I think the topic should be something intangible and not something that has already been the victim of worldwide media. Things that can be felt rather than things which have already been seen. A general idea instead of specific will produce more diverse response, which I think was the idea behing this.
Lice: I was actually being stupid on that point, I mean, come one, Gummi Bears for real? hahaa.. Fuck no, we should all draw Smurfs..
Hi.. me again, the guy with the idea ;)
Well, you could say have a famous person as theme, and you can interpret that person however you want.
yeah i agree, picking something like say starwars is too much. becuase you know there'd be like 40 darth vaders, and 40 yodas. i like nappys ideas for themes. i really like the death idea. or any emotion type theme. mainly becuase you can't just leaf thru some magazines/comics and find a picture of the deathstar and draw it.
a) I wish I'd read this before posting my rant in the ansi review discussion base.
Nap, Do you think it would be cool to perhaps choose a few themes, such as Death and/or Birth, and let artists decide which one to choose?
One theme a month should suffice - after two or three years I'm sure we'll have a hard enough time finding new, unused themes aftre only using one a month. With 2-3 a month, we'd be dry of ideas after like 10 months 8)
Heh, I dont really expect this to be a monthly project, maybe now and then as we see fit, but i know artists and i know that most artists prefer to go out and do their own thing most of the time. Im sure many people would get sick of theme months after a few months and it would just go away, but if we do it once every 3 or 5 months or so, it might stay fresh. And i agree that one theme a month should be fine, as that theme can be interpreted millions of different ways, what more do you want? :)
Yeah, the ones you did were cool.. I especially liked the 'Death' theme -- this could mean a great deal of things to a great deal of people.
yes, i like death. or maybe just "life" i mean that can mean death, birth, or just about anything.
I think that I will always create the art I want before the scene theme artwork comes up, but I would like to fit some theme wide work in if I can. There are a lot of great artists our there that aren't doing much work simply because they haven't thought of anything interesting to do. A scene theme might inspire them a bit. None of you have probably joined a 30 minute compo in #pixel, but they usually turn out interesting. Whoever runs the compo gives the artists the name of the picture that they are going to create. The artist does his best to make the image fit the title. With only 30 minutes to finish the pic, it turns out to be a race more than a piece of artwork. (Which isn't necessarily a bad thing, it's kind of fun to have a major adrenaline rush the entire time you work on an image) The main reason the compos are so fun is that there are so many people using the same topic, but all the work turns out so differently. I think with an entire month to do an image, we could crank out some really interesting stuff.
m.c. escher?? you know how HARD that'd be for us ansi folk? :)
My own vote would be for Hunger. I like it since hunger can be seen on multiple levels.. hunger for food, hunger for life, for sex, whatever...
i think God among Lice has a good one with hunger, just a few i was thinking of:comfort, lost, up/down, crime, apathy, hidden
Hunger is a great topic, as opposed to death, because I think we'd see a wide range of material. I suspect that with the topic "death" we'd end up with 30 skulls, 15 Grim Reapers, two spawns and one swimsuit cihck by the guy who misread "death" as "breast implants."
Aight....enough talk....lets do this shit.
By Filt- on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:57 pm:
Filth - What's ansi? ;)
Filth, his name is FILT -- notice, there is no 'H' in the name :)
Whatever we do, we should have some time to spread the word and do the work, so I'd say earliest would be aiming for work that will be in packs released in the month of March.
filt, filth, what's the difference? filt isn't even a word. it's like someone with the nick dangermous :)
Im in..and sadist is too i guess.. hunger sounds great..death too... wtf is h.c eischer?.. sounds totally fucked up.. shouldnt be that specific, limited to a person..that sux. you get no inspiration then...or something..err.. hm yeah.
err.. talk THEM into it..not the
Who The Fuck is M.C. Escher? You must live in a bubble man.. that or canada. ;)
sweden :)
>> wtf is h.c eischer?.
I think this all sounds like a good idea, but Hunger sounds like a difficult fucker to draw.. I mean when I think of Hunger I get no ideas nor inspiration whatsoever.. some of those other topics give me ideas, like the given 'Death' .. Heaven, War & Salvation could be pretty easy ones too (although I think Heaven and Salvation pieces of art would be pretty similar, i would make them similar anyway.. but that's cause i'm crazy like that:P ) ... and that MC Escher idea, i dont think that'd work at all.. noone remembers that dieznyik once wanted all the Apathy members to do HR Geiger inspired art? It ended being him and Armageddon Donut who did anything... getting doodlekids to do something that ambitious is hard :)
Sephiroth: thats no excuse, he is Dutch, you're closer to him than most of us ;) On a side note, check him out, his work was amazing: http://www.mcescher.com/
i always thought "life" was a good idea :)
napalm : never said it was an excuse =)i just replyed to that guy saying i was living in a bubble or in canada.
filth: life..i mean..life?. life is like..everything.. you can draw whatever you like if you pick the theme life.. a liittle more specifik than that..=)
"naked season"... would be a cool theme =)
Seph: I bet you don't study art =)
okay, i know i'm a little late.. but here would be my suggestion.. rather than sitting here ppicking away at a topic, why don't you just say... like...
Are we all going to agree on something or not, because we could all bicker away for countless generations on this topic..
good idea. :)
By Darkmage on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 11:32 pm:
mongi : study art ? :) what do you mean by that?
Yes, someone get all the prez's together or email them or some shit about.. Since napalm thought up the idea, he should be the one to organise it :)
Oh damnit! :) Heh, So I guess that the theme "HUNGER" will be displayed in works put out in packs that are released in the month of March, 1999? Everyone think that date gives you plenty of time to come up with something?
i do...
Dunno, I guess march is enough time -- we'll have to put it to all the group heads firstly tho..
YOU PEOPLE SMOKE WAY TOO MUCH CRACK
One month (lets say.. all artpacks to be released in March 1999) in any or all groups (participation being voluntary) will feature work in any medium based off of one theme, word, idea whatever, such as "hunger" or something. It can be literal, figurative, or just inspiration. Each piece done with that theme in mind is marked as being part of the theme month so that people can check out the many different ways one theme is handled by artists within their own groups and also in other groups.. I dunno, still not quite developed and i know people hate being told what to draw or where to find inspiration :)
any comments?
By Dangermouse on Thursday, January 14, 1999 - 08:35 pm:
Here's a few topics I'd like to see :)
a) Gummy Bears
b) Star Wars (an old favourite which has been done before, but not group-to-group -- perhaps an EI theme?)
c) A famous street name
d) A current event (Clinton, Suddam, etc..)
e) Err.. acheron? :)
I dunno, but I think you get the general idea.. Perhaps it could be something pretty stupid or wacky?
By Darkmage on Thursday, January 14, 1999 - 10:12 pm:
-darkmage [iCE]
By F7 on Thursday, January 14, 1999 - 10:22 pm:
By Nightstalker on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 02:15 am:
i believe it can be done. look at plf-1298.zip where all art had something to do with winter/xmas.
By Leonardo.iCE on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 07:13 am:
By Mongi on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 10:53 am:
By Big yellow man on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 12:16 pm:
i saw the ansee-leaves was brought back last fall =) but i cant say i saw much ansi-snow (maby it was a green christmas for the americans).. well the idea is a nice contrast to all comic book characters that is constantly produced...
By Root88 on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 01:05 pm:
Root88/iCE
DM I like all your ideas except the Star Wars one.
1. It has been done to death.
2. It is just asking for some fool to rip off art work, or use those damn Star Wars 3d models that have been released all over the web.
By Leonardo.iCE on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 01:18 pm:
I dunno.. wadayall think?
By Filth on Friday, January 15, 1999 - 10:46 pm:
but well, i'm up for it. :)
By Dangermouse on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 12:44 am:
By God among Lice on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 02:35 am:
This might be cool for all the people who normally do illustration/comic type stuff, but like.. I couldn't imagine a single person in HRG wanting to participate when the subject is some obvious, well-defined physical kind of thing... like a famous person/character/place, etc...
The only way this could work would be to have something less concrete, more of an idea than a thing. Napalm's "hunger" example seems great to me. That's the kind of idea I'm thinking of.
>DM I like all your ideas except the Star Wars one.
Will you please tell me why in god's name you would be willing to draw fucking gummi bears? And why you'd be willing to see an entire month's worth of people drawing gummi bears? :)
This is like.. the all time stupidest scene idea I've ever heard. :) (sorry dangermouse for the comment.. I don't really mean it in an insulting way. :)
By Darkmage on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 04:23 am:
I'd say emotions/feelings, locations (not real ones), or even something as simple as a single word would be good.
-darkmage[iCE]
By Dangermouse on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 02:20 pm:
No seriously, maybe it should be something like the Blender format, where all the groups are given three words or something?
By Napalm on Saturday, January 16, 1999 - 03:09 pm:
If you read my original posting about the idea, i said we should use some sort of concept or word such as "hunger", which can mean so many things to so many people. I think something like this is a hell of a lot better than a topic such as "light sabers" :) It is something that allows for countless works of expression that do not have to contain any one specific concrete object, person, etc..
And as far as getting people in a group to draw, it should be a totally voluntary thing on an individual basis, no group leaders should force anyone to participate if they dont feel like it.
So, someone start listing some nice abstract concepts and maybe we can just take a vote on em.
Guess ill start!
Hunger
War
Salvation
Heaven
Pain
Death
Birth
Apocalypse (heh.. sorry)
-nappy
By Mongi on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 12:43 am:
By Filth on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 01:09 am:
By Cthulu of Mistigris on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 03:00 pm:
b) I muchly support the idea, especially on the Napalm / God Among Lice side.
c) Let's hear from some other group leaders who can actually promise some sort of control over their artists' output.
By Dangermouse on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 03:04 pm:
By Cthulu of Mistigris on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 04:21 pm:
By Napalm on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 07:27 pm:
And no one posted any other theme suggestions, should we just vote on those ones i posted then?
By Dangermouse on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 10:14 pm:
By Filth on Sunday, January 17, 1999 - 11:59 pm:
or maybe i just do too many drugs. heh.
By Root88 on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:05 pm:
My suggestion for this or next month would be a tribute to M.C. Escher. It might be fun seeing how people look at Escher's work and interpret it and create there own. Seeing how different every one turns out an image inspired by one person would be fascinating to me.
By Filth on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:23 pm:
or maybe just me since i'm kinda shitty at that kinda thing. :)
By God among Lice on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:48 pm:
By Filt- on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 12:57 pm:
i think that a thought or concept is probably a more productive topic than something more tangible, as it will spawn a much wider set of interpretations, and therefore hopefully some more diverse works in all forms
By Cthulu of Mistigris on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 01:53 pm:
Ones which don't immediately lend themselves to an image are good, like filth's recommendations, but as I was reading through them I realized that OLD GROUP NAMES would be a great source of inspirations - they were all kind of abstract concepts; Apathy, Nation, Tribe, Gothic, Integrity, Imperial, Shiver... and each theme month could coincide with a semi-retrospective on the output and importance of the group whose name we'd be appropriating. Comments? Good idea or crackpot idea?
By Darkmage on Monday, January 18, 1999 - 11:32 pm:
"Hunger" seems to be fairly popular with everyone that has expressed interest in this. Lets move forward.
-darkmage [iCE]
By The real filth on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 01:18 am:
i think God among Lice has a good one with hunger, just a few i was thinking of:comfort, lost, up/down, crime, apathy, hidden
i think that a thought or concept is probably a more productive topic than something more tangible, as it will spawn a much wider set of interpretations, and therefore hopefully some more diverse works in all forms
i didn't post this. wtf.
anyways about using the group names for a theme, i dunno about that. i mean most people will probably just do fonts of the group names. :)
By Root88 on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 06:57 am:
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Hunger sounds good, are we doing it this month, or next? It's getting rather late, but I might be able to squeeze another pic in.
By Dangermouse on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 01:29 pm:
By Napalm on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 03:56 pm:
By Filthhhhhhhhhh on Tuesday, January 19, 1999 - 07:19 pm:
By Sephiroth on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 07:15 am:
but do it for like the march pack..i mean..sadists february pack is almost done allready. you have to get time to organize this..get groups to participate. inform the members/talk the into it. and then draw the fucking shit..
//sephiroth(SADiST)
By Sephiroth on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 07:16 am:
By Napalm on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 09:37 am:
By Sephiroth on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 10:17 am:
By God among Lice on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 12:58 pm:
hehe sorry but I always have a chuckle when people misspell names when the original place they read it was just a scroll of the page above. :)
Ever seen those black&white prints with like water flowing upwards, or birds turning into fish, or hands drawing themselves? That's M.C. Escher.
but yea.. that'd probably be a difficult theme.. a little narrow. I like the group names as themes idea though. Samsara would be a good one too, as long as people knew what it meant. :)
By CrayONOFF on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 01:25 pm:
By Napalm on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 08:22 pm:
Aaaaanyway, I like Hunger personally. Maybe we should do some formal vote or something... or will this be another awards voting disaster? ;)
By Filth on Wednesday, January 20, 1999 - 10:37 pm:
By Sephiroth on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 12:22 am:
but hm, ill check him out, he sounds kewl.
not as an ansitheme tho.=)
By Sephiroth on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 12:24 am:
By Tomppa1 on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 01:14 am:
By Mongi on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 04:47 am:
By Ralgtoh on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 12:51 pm:
"illustrate a feeling"
no specific feeling, just asy illustrate a feeling and like... tell what the feeling is, or maybe put it in black on black and the viewer could try to ddetermine what feeling it is before checking, etc... i think you're being too specific for a one time thign.. just do it like that
By Dangermouse on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 01:43 pm:
Let's just go with "hunger" for the first running of this theme month, we'll tackle another theme another month down the line.
By God among Lice on Thursday, January 21, 1999 - 08:40 pm:
so it's hunger?
maybe we should start our debating for the next theme right now. :) After Hunger I vote for a modified tomppa1 suggestion: "naked".
we could see more moonrise breasts, hopefully a naked steven stahlberg babe, some comic chicks transposed to ansi (sans swimsuits), and it'd be the perfect time for catbones to release his x-pack!
seriously though.. I like naked for the same reasons I like hunger.. the various levels of meaning, the literal and the metaphorical.
By Darkmage on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 04:11 am:
Aight....enough talk....lets do this shit.
"Hunger" seems to be fairly popular with everyone that has expressed interest in this. Lets move forward.
-darkmage [iCE]
By Sephiroth on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 11:14 am:
hm..hunger should be the best thing to do.. why dont you set a time and a place on irc to meet and discuss the sheet?
/seph - sadist
By Dangermouse on Friday, January 22, 1999 - 06:27 pm:
By Napalm on Saturday, January 23, 1999 - 08:37 pm:
By Sph on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 12:33 am:
By Dangermouse on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 01:13 pm:
By Dieznyik on Monday, January 25, 1999 - 08:55 pm:
This idea is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of! =) HUNGER???!?!??!?
Well if its something other than comic rips, thats ok... but if i see one pic of spawn looking at an empty plate, or witchblade looking all anorexic, im gonna fucken kill people.
Hab a nice day!!!