*1 ______ _____ ___________________\ \____/ /_______ \___________ \_ __\ \__ ________/ / _______/ / \________\/ / \ /____________/_______\ /_____________\ *7 ___ ___ `---[ *5FeedBack |ssue #7 *7]---' *7 ___ ___ `---[ *5Menu *7]---' *1 -[*2 Welcome! *1]- -[*2 FishWave *1]- -[*2 Credits! *1]- -[*2 A Killer *1]- -[*2 ModInfo! *1]- -[*2 Ashamed! *1]- -[*2 Adverts! *1]- -[*2 Thoughts *1]- -[*2 Messages *1]- -[*2 Fabulous *1]- -[*2 ..News.. *1]- -[*2 CheckThis! *1]- -[*2 FB-Chart *1]- -[*2 Swap Chart *1]- *2 ______ _____ ___________________\ \____/ /_______ \___________ \_ __\ \__ ________/ / _______/ / \________\/ / \ /____________/_______\ /_____________\ *7 ___ ___ `---[ *6Presents *7]---' *7 ___ ___ `---[*6 FeedBack |ssue #7 *7 ]---' *1 ..: *2released *6February the 29th *22000 *1:.. *7 ___________ ______\___ __ *1 -----. *7 __ / \ *1¦ *7 / /\ \ e l c o m e *1¦ *7 / //\_____\ *1¦ *7 /______/ *1-------------' *6 Fishwave had his Seenpoint, Mop had his Rom, but I, sTRIFe, STILL have my FeedBack! *1 We're proud to present another high quality issue of this musicdisk-serie which has been growing more and more into a diskmag as well! *4 Ladies and gentlemen, *2 it's good to be back! * *4 Yeahhh you fucking wankers check this out! We guys are crazy enough to do it, to actually release something in the amigascene. *5 The fucking amigascene doesn't deserve it, but we're doing it anyway! You lucky bastards! *6There's a lot of nice shit in this production and only a few lucky guys will probably ever get to see it. You're seeing something special here, something only you and a couple of hundred others probably will ever watch. *7Probably you won't realize how lucky you were to experience this, until you're old and grey and the amiga scene is long gone. * *5 y o u d o n ' t k n o w *6 what you've got *7 t i l l i t ' s g o n e . * *1Why is it so hard to finish a production you have started on? This issue of FeedBack has been in development for several months, and yet, compared to the erocharts this is not a big production. *2 I think most people that have read a diskmag have no idea how much work really is put into the thing. You first discover this when you try to make an equal production yourself. *3Diskmags are without doubt in need of support to stay alive. In the long run, a small amount of editors will get so fed up with all the work that they give up. And this is what we are all seeing, who's next up? Trashcan? * *4 I must say I am very happy to still receive big amounts of module-support for FeedBack. This is the very heart of the FeedBack- project, now even some article support would be nice for the future. Give it a thought! *5The highlights of this issue is the interview with fishwave, an interview revealing many unknown sides of this guy I guess. You should check it! *6 Many nice modules to check out this time, should be something for every taste! *7I'm so exhausted after all the other stuff I have written for this issue of FeedBack so you'll have to excuse me if this welcome-part doesn't live up to your expectations! * *1The scene has come to a point, where I wonder who I'm making this production for. Had it been a demo or intro or a normal diskmag it surely would have had a big enough audience. But who bothers to check out musicdisks these days? *2I remember the first issue of FeedBack back in 1996, I got lots of comments on it, it was spread very good, and I was all excited and happy. It was my real entrance into the scene, my first serious production. *3Back then I felt it as great to release my own pack with modules from friends. Today I don't know any more, it's some kind of duty, I just do it because I believe the scene wants me to. But do they? * *4It's a philosophy I've had the entire time I've been in the scene. I've often released shitty prods, just to show people that there is still life in the amiga scene. *5People probably ask why we, apathy, released those kindof shitty prods at the democompo at tg'99. The main reason to why I released that stuff, was because there were so few real demos in the compo. I kind of felt we had to do some fillers, so it would seem to people that there still is support for the compos held at parties. I'm afraid of a situation where we only might see like 3 or 2 amigademos at the gathering. I fear that when that happens, there won't be any new amiga compos at a big computer-party like that. There hasn't been a c64compo at * *5thegathering since 1996 I seem to remember, I don't want to see the amiga end up in the same situation. *6And somebody has to make the crap! What would winners be like if they didn't beat any other crap-stuff? The scene needs the crap! Without crap you won't hear people say they can do better than that, with crap they'll make something which beats the shit out of the crap.. Respect the crap guys! ;) It takes a lot of courage to release crap and await the audience's reaction, but somebody's gotta do it, if you know what I mean. :) Haha! *7A bit off track here, but I felt I just had to get that off my chest, as I've seen some upset people for these very exact reasons. * *1FeedBack of course ISN'T crap! You agree on that don't you? Well I must admit I think it is kind of crappy sometimes, small textwindow and lousy code, but hey, it works. And I've never heard anyone offering to do it better, and I surely can't make it better all by myself, so take it or leave it! The important thing should however be the music! *2But I can't help wondering, how many people actually listen to mods when they want to listen to music these days? The mods ain't a part of the cutting edge technology anymore, as I once believe they were. People today seem to be more than pleased by downloading the big mp3's and listening to them, who bothers to download mods? * *3But I hope this is not the case with the amiga-sceners, my heart hopes the amiga- sceners still appreciate those old nice and heavy mods, along the, maybe few but still kickin', mods being made today. *4It's nice to see that there's still musicians around that master the art of tracking, mastering to make great mods with small sizes! Cheers to you all! *7Yours, *5 strife of *4apathy*5. * *2 ______ _____ ___________________\ \____/ /_______ \___________ \_ __\ \__ ________/ / _______/ / \________\/ / \ /____________/_______\*1 *2/_____________\ *7 _ _ _ . _ *6The *7| '7 '|_7 _|||_ (_' l_.l l_.(_l|l_.._) *2Codework*1............... *6sTRIFE *2Intropic*1............ *6aNGELDUST *2FeedBackLogo*1.............. *6pIX *2Menu-gfx*1.......... *6sODA & rAGE *2Ascii's*1................. *6pOINT *2Articles......*1......... *6sTRIFE *2Packing & rest*1......... *6sTRIFE * *7 The following musicians have contributed *2 - *6Xhale*7/*6Dcs *2- *6Ganja*7/*6NerveAxis *2- - *6Isaac*7/*6Contraz *2- *6Dr.Avalanche*7/*6CB *2- - *6Virgill*2- *6TrickTrax*7/*6Iris*2 - *6Zixaq*7/*6Eph*2 - - *6Laxical*7/*6Scoopex *2- *6Cyboman*7/*6Ambrosia *2- *1 Thanx alot to *6nemechek *1for making the *6great *1FeedBackIntro and to *6mr.vain *1 for helping me out with the code *7 _____ __________ _____. ______\_ /_\ _ / |_ \ __/ / \____/ _/ /____\|____\______\ ________| *6 «-*1nM$!*6----------------------» *2 w E d O N ' t c A R e * *7 ________ ___ \ ____ *6 ---------. *7 / \\ / \ o d - i n f o *6 ¦ *7 /______\\// \ *6 ---------' *7 \/_______\ *1 In this part you will find some info about the modules and their authors and maybe even some words from the authors themselves **** 0,5 *3 .- [ Zoom ] -. *1 Composer......: Virgill Composing date: 1997/1998 Module size...: 342870 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 Virgill reassured us that there is no bug in this module, it's his new style or something this 'offbeat'. This module does wonders to a hangover, while it also brings out that great old-skool feeling of experiencing something special! * *3 .- [ Inside Out ] -. *1 Composer......: isaac Composing date: 01.01.2000 Module size...: 207544 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 You might have some trouble getting into this tune, as it has some rather complex rythms and probably isn't in the most common "scene-style" (at least not any- more!!!). So listen to it several times, and it might become more enjoyable! contact me at: isak@nl.telia.no (for any reason!) * *3 .- [ Flunky Dunky ] -. *1 Composer......: Laxical Composing date: 1999 Module size...: 184774 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 get in touch with me: hjsobcza@wrd.de funky handshakes to: chormag,chrylian,greg, jester, nightshade and mel o dee ! also hello to all members of scoopex !! s c o o p e x - - generations ahead * *3 .- [ Goat Ate My Guitar ] -. *1 Composer......: TrickTrax Composing date: 1998 Module size...: 145036 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 !life is killing you! tricktrax/iris for the musicpack "feedback" * *3 .- [ Apathy-Disorders.2 ] -. *1 Composer......: cyb0man Composing date: 1996 Module size...: 274274 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 the smokey cyb0man! provides the happy blokes in apathy with a yet quite big, but though nice piece of noizes, put together in hearttracker if i meet the author of this cool tool i'd might kiss him!!! Cyboman gave us this mod aages ago but we never got around to use it, until now! * *3 .- [ Funktivation ] -. *1 Composer......: Ganja Composing date: 21.01.2000 Module size...: 301782 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 =[ganja.nerveaxis.funks.you.up]= =[big.time.for.the.new.millennium.]= =[totally.housed.n.filtered.shit]= =[mixed.n.filtered.w/cool.edit.pro]= * *3 .- [ Indigestible ] -. *1 Composer......: Dr.Avalanche Composing date: 08.07.1997 Module size...: 326268 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 Sample support by my pals MARC and CIE! BoNzAi rulez supreme! This track is quite old, but Avalanche has promised us that this module is unspread. It reminds us of the old feedback-modules from pow and zany. Great Style! * *3 .- [ Shorty(But Long) ] -. *1 Composer......: TrickTrax Composing date: 25.09.1998 Module size...: 197204 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 it's only an illusion !life is killing you! (c)tricktrax/iris '98 if you need any musix martin@coolchat.dk * *3 .- [ Dancing Shiva ] -. *1 Composer......: Zixaq Composing date: 1999 Module size...: 72172 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 Greetings to all EPH And Absurd-members! Pretty nice sound for that size, don't you think? Soon it's winter, and I'm going to spend it inside in front of my Amiga! Uhhhhh....well, almost all of the time... Interested in music for your intro or demo? Contact me at: oyvindpnoste@hotmail.com * *3 .- [ CS! You Are Dead! ] -. *1 Composer......: Dr.Avalanche Composing date: 23.02.1998 Module size...: 239214 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 The beginning of this module is from my own track FLEXIBLE WORLD! Some samples have been created with help of MOD2SAMPLE! Made for the game CounterStrike, which never saw the light of day. (Game over tune) * *3 .- [ Pe-Hole ] -. *1 Composer......: xhale Composing date: 1998 Module size...: 282158 *2 Words from the composer......: *4 xhale [dcs] skodvin@online.no * *7 The *6 _ _ _ _ `_7 _|| /|_77 '|_ (_' (_l(_ll/ l_.l l_.._) *1 Section *5 If you want to have your advert printed in *1FeedBack*5, just send us your advert, and we'll include it in the next issue*7! **** 0,5 *7 _______ ___ _____ _______ *1 .-*7| __ \ | / / | ____/__*1-. *5 .-*1|:*7| \ \_ \ \ \_ /*1:|*5-. *5 | *1`-*7|_________/____\ \ _______/*1--' *5| |*4 <-----------------*7\____\*4----------> *5| | *1+ *5d a r k a g e *1+ *5| | *5| | *4punisher *1of *4darkage *5| | *3 jonas o'brien *5| | *3 huvikveien 32b *5| | *3 3222 sandefjord *5| | *5n*3o*7rw*3a*5y *5| | *5| `------> *4for quality swapping *5<-----' * *5 ------- reason *5 ----|-- |%sW----------- *5 | | --- --|-- | *5 | --- | | *5 | | ------ ! | | | *5 -|- |-- ----- *5 ----------------- *1 LAHVE *4 friendly *1 RADEK HRDLICKA *4 non-stop *1 KRALUPSKA 1713 *4 and fast *1 25001 BRANDYS N/L *4 swapping *1 CZECH REPUBLIC * *5 . .. ... ...... *3 ______ ____*5::*3 ______ __ ____ ___ ____ ____ / __|____ / /_ _\ /___\ \ / |__ _|_ _ ¬|__ _| __/ __ _ |\___ | |¯ \|/ \)__¯ \| \/_(/ | | /___________\ |_____________\ /___________\ *5 ::*2 a p a t h y *1 ctp!/L124 *5 ::............. .... ... .. . *6 Angeldust of Apathy ^ Rno *7 Markus Nimtz Noellestr. 22 29646 Bispingen - Germany - *2 For fast & friendly mailswapping *5 <- *6Contact now & get excited*5 -> * *1 S E C R E T L Y ! *2 :----------------------- -- - *1 E*2! *2 ! *3 >> CoNtAcT Us UnDeR: << *2. *1 C*2! *7 ____ *2. *2 !*4 Mr.Vain / Secretly!*7 /\ \ *2: *1 R*2!*4 c/o Thorsten Will *7 / \___\ *2! *2 !*4 P.o.Box: 10 17 02 *7 \ / / *2! *1 E*2!*4 D - 44607 Herne *7 \/___/ *2! *2 ! *2! *1 T*2!*5 we are in need of coders *2! *2 !*5 and graphicians! plz cntx us *2! *1 L*2!*6 ,,, *2! *2 !*6 (o o) *2! *1 Y*2!*6 -- -+----ooO-(_)-Ooo---+- -- *2! *2 : *2! *1 !*2. email: mr.vain@amigascne.org *2! *2 - -- -----------------------: * *7 swapping-swapping-sw wapping-swapping-swa apping-swapping-swap pping-swapping-swapp ping*6 jackobe of *7appi ing-*6 oxygen 64*7 ppin ng-s*6 ----------*7 ping g-s ng- -s*6 jacek pretki*7 sw s*6 ul.wisniowa 19*7 a *6 64-310 Lwowek Poland - fast swap - c64 fans - 100% answer! *7 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *6 Keep The Scene Alive *7 -=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-=- * *2 ___.___. ____ Bd!/La! ______ ______ \ | |/ __/___ ___. __\__ /_\__ /__ /__/\ | \__ /( __|_.\ ___/ ___/ / \__|___l/__\______|___\______\_____\ *5 Contact me for coding and swapping *2 Whizz/Apathy *1 Fredrik Stridh Hyltaskogsvägen 88 274 37 Skurup *2 Sweden * *5 ____ ____ .______________¡_ |____\___\__ ______| \_ ____ \_ | ________ \ | / / / | \_\ \ \__________dwb________/__|___________\ *6 I'm searching for more active contacts...just write to... *2 -= Malmis / Void =- mikael malmsten box 69 545o2 älgarås sweden *5 answer to all disk-senders * *2 life's a piece of *6shit *2 you never know what you're gonna *6get *1 strife/apathy *7 torgeir amundsen klemsgate 8 3613 kongbserg norway *6 strifeapt@hotmail.com *2 snailmail: *61% *7answer *2 email: *61% *7answer *2 phone: *61% *7answer * *5+=-- --=+ *7 Contact Thrym/Iris! for fast swapping! Modules, trace and normal elite-swapping *5 ---------------------------- *7 Espen Fossen Hyllbergv.7 7520 HEGRA Norway *5 ---------------------------- **** Not with 2,8 ... *7 _ (_` ¡_ , _ _ _ _ ._)(_)|_))|_)(_|(_(/_ ! *4 ·pix/Subspace· *1 ·contact for friendly. ·gfx^demo swapping· *7 ·eSPEn tERJESEn· ·lEIv eIRIKSSONS gT 11· ·5500 HGSD, NORWAY· *1 hI: *4 Hypah,Leia,CitizenX,Visitor, Colorbird,Accede,Romeo,Andy, Deep,Drop,Excel,Probe,Orome, Felon,Fusko, Spdevil, Fudge. **** 4 *7 _______ ________ ________ / _____/_\__ \_____/ __ / / \ / / ______/\ \ ______/ \ \_______\ \ _______\*1-pnk!h*7 /________\ *6 new 20 contacts wanted *2 blaze/floppy *1 patrick kalinowski polna 63/5 21-200 parczew poland *7no FAKED stamps! *6 support my *1-sPEED- *6packmag ** 7 *7 _ _ _ _ _ \ /|_7(_'| |_7| 7| 7(_' \/ l_.._)l_.l_.l_ll_|._) | *2contact me for *6lovely*2 swap! :) *1 ..veslepus of specter.. *7 heidi c. amundsen glitregata 13 3612 kongsberg *1 n o r w a y. *6 _ _ _ _ _ _ *7 .:*6 (_'| 7|_7| '|_ |_7 7 '*7 :. .:::*6 ._)l_ll_.l_.l_.l_. l *7:::. *6 | /**** 10 *6 [÷]*2 .D.I.G.I.T.A.L. *6[÷] *1- ------------------- - *7Contact me for any kind of swapping. Everybody is very welcome to send *1- ------------------- - *6 NEMES!S *1/ *2DIGITAL *130 Farrier Close Fatfield, Washington Tyne + Wear, NE38 8RW *2England *1- ------------------- - *6GREETS:*7shade.koasmaster michael.ghandy.fishwave coma.okeanos.leunam.214 point.darkhawk.blunt... *1- ------------------- - ***** 14 *1 !*7Musicians*1! *4 Genetix*1/*4Vortex *5 15 Sycamore Avenue Harrington, Washington Tyne and Wear NE38 9BH *4 ENGLAND ***** 15 *7 _______ ____. ____ _______ ._\ _ /_.___./ |____\_ \_._\ _ /_. | ____/ |_ | _| _/ |_ | | |_________|/_______\|____\|____|/___|____| *6 Bd! L¹24 *2 for motherfuckin' powered swappin' write to the best friendshipper of poland: *6 evan/dcs marcin szmidtke skr.poczt.23 37-450 stalowa wola 7 poland *2 one hunderd percent answer! * *2 for *7e-mail *2music swapping: *1 (yeah right.. ) *6drdeath*1@*2musician.org ***** 15½ *7 _. _. _ 7l__ _ ___7| ____ _ ____ ||_)) ))_7l ))_Ll ))_7l 7) ))- '' ll ¯¯¯¯ '' *4 write for new extasy? techno tapes swapping *1 __ *2 budgie/apathy *1 __ \(_ *1 kamil kaczmarek _)/ boh. warszawy 1o5/3 72-2oo nowogard *2 poland! *4 answer is sure... I am not disk stealer. *1 write also for joining to *7'apathy' *1 if you are skilled!.? - *2 _ . _ | |_7 | `_7 l_.l_. | (_l *1 live like there is no *6 tommorow! *1 ..*7leia of apathy*1.. *4nina høegh-larsen hagaveien 11 3320 vestfossen *7 n o r w a y*1. *2 _ _ _ |_ `_7 | 7 `_7 |_ | 7 | 7 (_l l_l (_l l_. | | l_| | ._l **** 16 *2 _ _ _ |_ `_7 | 7 `_7 |_ | 7 | 7 (_l l_l (_l l_. | | l_| | ._l *7 fOR tHE nEWEST *6dC*1: *2mAZE *1/ *6aPATHY *1& *6gIANTS *1sTIAN gUDBRANSEN sAUHÅGÅN 12 2850 lENA *2nORWAY *7aLSO fOR mODS aND oTHER *6 sWAPPING*1!!! *2gREETS tO mY *1fRIENDS*2! **** 18 *7.____: *1..*2øPEN.yØUR.m!ND.!!!*1...:.:*7| _ | *7 _____ *1:*7 ____ _ _________*1.:_ *7| \\| |*1:*7/ _///_ ____/_//_|__ _| *7\ \ |/ /_ _____ _ | ___///| \ · ! /// _____// · | \: | \ : \: || : | | `------'| | .:||__:____| | *1 ......: *7 l________| l________j---' *6 214*1/*2Void *137 Hayfell Avenue Heron Hill Kendal Cumbria La9 7jh *7England*1, *6Uk *1.*7joining void uk, *5friendship swapping*1. - *7 ................. .._:______ . ..:........ +--`----, '----+ _:______ : l______¡ · /______l / : : : l___+_/`---- \_ / : : :·spøk·l________\ /____:___ : : +-`\___/---, / : :· r · N · ø ·l______________/ ·...:.. . . . .:.........· ·................· *3 wANNA sWAP kOOL fILMZ? splatter . manga . hk-action . porno *6 -tFt/rNo!- *4 Tom Frode Taksdal Kongsteinsgata 42 4012 Stavanger *6 Norway - *6-> *7fOR fRIENDLY mODSWAP *6<- *7aND oTHER tHINGS cONCERNING mUSIC *2 Jerry*1/*6Rebels *1Stig Frydenlund S0re Skogvei 25a 5037 SOLHEIMSVIKEN *7N O R W A Y * *7 _____ __________ _____. ______\_ /_\ _ / |_ \ __/ / \____/ _/ /____\|____\______\ ________| *5 «-*1nM$!*5----------------------» *4 for supporting feedback you can use this adresse: *5 Torgeir Amundsen *1 Klemsgate 8 3613 Kongsberg *5 Norway *4 or reach me through email at strifeapt@hotmail.com *7 or send the support to other apt members! - *2 If you're not in this advert section *3 I t h i n k y o u k n o w w h y ! *4 Either you're a fucking delayer *5 o r *6 You haven't sent us any *7 f u c k i n g s u p p o r t ! - *4 ________ *1 -------------------. *4 ___ \ ____ *1 ¦ *4 / \\ / \ e s s a g e s *1¦ *4 /______\\// \ *1¦ *4 \/_______\ *1 ----' *5 This time there are messages from the following: *4 [*7 sTRIFe*5/*7aPATHy *4 ]*5-^-*4[*7page*1 01-08 *4] [*7 aNGELDUSt*5/*7aPATHy *4 ]*5-^-*4[*7page*1 09-11 *4] [*7 pUNISHEr*5/*7aPATHy *4 ]*5-^-*4[*7page*1 12-21 *4] * *1 ...: *7messages from *1:... *4 ..: *1sTRIFe *5/ *1aPATHy *4:.. *5 - - *1 ..: *4written February 2000. *1:.. * *4Well first of all have to say hi to the guys I've learned to know throuh swapping up through the years! It's been nice knowing you all, guess mostly you're waiting for a letter from me these days or I'm waiting for one from you. *1I'm sure you all have a lot of cool stuff to tell about your lifes now etc, but you can tell me sometime if we meet in real life or on the net or don't tell me at all. *4I haven't got the time nor motivation to keep up the swapping at the speed i had earlier. And mostly when I get a send these days, it's just filled with old mods, pics and some shitty utils, so it's not like it used to be. *1 He he. * *4Anyway, I've had some nice years in the swap- scene, but now my life as a swapper is over. The time I spend infront of my amiga these days will be used for making productions or support other productions. *1Must admit that I still send 2-3 sends a month, but this is only to group-members and friends that don't have inet. *4If there are some guys out there that still want to do some letter writing, then send me a cool letter and we can discuss everything from girls to money and the meaning of life. I still like to write letters. * *1And then I have to greet the guys on #amigascne, not much life there anymore really, not like the old days that either. The swappers have missed out on some fun times on #amigascne up through the years, now it's not that much to brag about anymore really. Well sometimes it's still nice. :) *4Here are the greets to friends I've done through swapping: *1 pUNISHER/aPATHY hAWK/gIANTs aNGELDUST/aPATHY sPLATTERHEAD/sCOOPEx bLAZe/pOTION * *4 dR.DEATH/tULOU cARp/aPATHy nORk/nETWORk rABL/vOId dRAc/aMBROSIa fIRESTARTEr/iRIS *1 dARKHAWk/iRIs rAGe/aPATHy rOLEX/dEPTH aLLANOn/dEPTh^tmg fLAPJACk/eROTIc tENTACLe/aPATHy mR.X/rETRO eVAN/nAH kOLOR aNGELDUST/aPATHy bON/gIANTS zEROx/gODs LEIa/aPt * *4 cOPe/aPATHY vESLEPUs/sPECTEr cHAUPLe/cONTRAZ pOINt/abSURD hAZe/aBSURD 214/vOId cOMA/aBSURD zEEBALL/aPATHy sODA/sCOOPEX mAZe/aPATHy mJ/iRIS *1 pIx/eNDZEIT tFt/rNO sKINNEr/eLTECH wISEGUY/gIANTs sTYLES/s2^vOID cHUNKY/uHF pOw/sUNSHINe pRODUCTIONs * *4 dEATH/iNDY cONDOr aZTEc/aBSURd hOOLIGAN/dUALcREW sHINIG lOADERROR/ePHIDRENA *1 and many more ofcourse, but we lost contact so long ago I feel it isn't that important to greet you all anymore. *4 Also have to say sorry to the guys I never answered up through the years. But you probably survived anyway. :) * *1 And greets to friends on irc, well there's too many of you, but I'll name a few: *4 Subwork/Reason Ganja/NerveAxis Frequent/Ephidrena Zixaq/Ephidrena Stoney/Ephidrena Zack/Spaceballs Slummy/Spaceballs Nemechek/Whelpz Guffaw/Giants Whizz/Apathy *1 Sorry too many to remember. But you know who you are. * *1 ...: *7messages from *1:... *4 ..: *1aNGELDUSt *5/ *1aPATHy *4:.. *5 - - *1 ..: *4written January 2000. *1:.. * *4 Here are some lines from Angeldust.. *1 _________ | | _____| |_____ | R. I. P. | | | |_____ _____| | | | | | | | | ___/\___|___o__/\_|____A____ *4 ATTENTION! DON'T WRITE TO THESE GUYZ ANYMORE! THEY'VE QUITTED SCENE! * *1 Carp/ex-Apathy^Whelpz -> September 1999 Sante/ex-Absurd -> Early 1999 Splatterhead/ex-Scoopex -> September 1999 Tiger/ex-Apathy -> December 1999 Thunder/ex-Scoopex -> January 2000 *4 PLEASE DEAR EDITORS AND MAILSWAPPERS! DELETE THEIR ADDYS! THANX!!! *4 Sum good friendz and comrades have left us. Like in a bloody shitty war they leave us alone on the battlefield. The fighting as the last remaining defenders of friendship, against the dark army's of business. *1 Amen!.... * *1 ...: *7messages from *1:... *4 ..: *1pUNISHEr *5/ *1aPATHy *4:.. *5 - - *1 ..: *4written December 1999. *1:.. * *4 Punisher/Apathy has quite a lot of guys he wants to greet, and they are..: *1 ace/nah-kolor+phase truce poland adonis/iris denmark amifan/garbage+terror 13 poland angeldust/apathy+rave network overscan germany ash/apathy+decree poland aton/indy norway axl/apathy+hellfire england aztec/absurd+sector 7 norway azzaro/embassy+mawi+sative mea poland bear/a-files+weeds poland big-rat/nuance germany bipbip/fresh france black dragon/honoo+limited edition france black fire/indy poland *4 blunt/trsi holland boulder/high voltage poland brutus/indy poland bta/absurd+appendix poland bucko/depth england budgie/absurd+dreamweb+linear poland bytebreaker/looker house+skulls germany carp/apathy 'honour' division england case/faction+nah-kolor+ram jam italy celius/indy norway chauple/contraz norway cheetah/ephidrena norway chosen/rave network overscan germany chriz/apathy+element+massive+rape norway cook/indy poland cool tj/sapphire norway coma/absurd sweden curt cool/depth denmark cyborg/industry serbia *1 darkhawk/iris denmark darklight/veezya poland darkus/nautika england deus docet/boyzout+intense italy digger/iris poland dire/eremation germany dissident/apathy portugal duck-hunter/spaceballs norway egon/indy norway evan/mawi+nah-kolor poland fenriz/rape norway firestarter/iris norway frequent/ephidrena norway ghandy/darkage+faith+gods germany gone/void holland gorzyga/decree poland greg/reality france growl/dune denmark guma/active minds poland *4 hangman/active minds+phase truce poland hardfire/intense+spaceballs france harza/fabiness finland hawk/ambrosia+darkage+giants sweden haze/absurd norway heatwave/depth+nautika finland hellrazor/giants norway hurricane/ex clan norway hyper/specter norway icetray/reality poland idaho/potion poland jace/indy norway jackobe/oxygen 64 poland jim/mawi+old bulls poland jok/absurd+dreamweb poland juen/harvester+layout poland juhi/strobe finland kaosmaster/darkage italy kempy/twilight+veezya poland *1 kollaps/depth denmark krs/active minds+linear poland leia/giants norway lithium/gods england loaderror/ephidrena norway lobo/the renegades norway locash/moons+potion poland lothar/moons poland magellan/royal czeck republic malmis/void sweden marc/haujobb+sector 7 germany maze/apathy+giants norway mello/light norway microzoid/indy england missing organ/sotu norway mj/iris norway modem/darkage italy mosher/massive norway mr.x/retro staff norway *4 nork/darkage+network norway ozzy/light norway peer/nah-kolor+phase truce poland pesti/nah-kolor poland pinguin/cruel brothers poland pix/endzeit+nah-kolor norway point/absurd norway powerslave/void england protex/condenser norway psalt/dual crew shining+spaceballs norway radiance/d'sound norway rebb/tm!c finland rebel/apathy poland rebo/ruscrew norway receiver/mantra denmark renton/dual crew shining poland rolex/depth+massive norway romeo/donut fetish+rave network overscan norway roover/apathy+decree poland *1 samuel/indy sweden sante/absurd slovakia sci/strobe england sh1/nowhere productions norway sixpack/gods norway slicemaster/image dreams norway slummy/spaceballs norway snow/sector 5 holland soda/scoopex norway speed/sapphire norway spiff/indy norway splatterhead/scoopex finland squid/indy norway starbyte/indy norway stoney/ephidrena norway strife/apathy norway stunner/vortex germany subgod/light norway sword/whelpz poland *4 tecon/planet jazz norway tentacle/apathy norway terrix/apathy poland tft/rave network overscan norway the edge/nautika england the hooligan/dual crew shining finland the lawnmover man/darkage+network spain thorr/whelpz poland thunder/scoopex france thung/agravedict+apathy+linear+reality poland tiger/strobe germany tomeq/agravedict poland trasher/artwork+bomb+sanity germany trump/giants norway ubik/absurd+dreamweb poland voicer/apathy+old bulls+void poland volcryn/indy norway warlord/indy norway weirdo/absurd+network finland *1 whitecross/indy norway whizz/apathy sweden wiseguy/giants norway x-tender/void norway zack/darkage+endzeit+spaceballs norway zapotek/creative minds inc norway zeeball/apathy poland zerox/gods norway zito/apathy+off world+zetec germany zixaq/ephidrena norway *5 And punishers greetings rounds up the whole message part. Should you not be greeted, then who cares. Maybe greetings aren't very important anymore. * *2 ________ *1--------------------. *2 \___ \ ._______ *1¦ *2 / \\¡ / S c e n e *1¦ *2 /______\\ / *1¦ *2 \____/ e w s *1¦ *1----' *4 From now on we will have global news in FeedBack. Guess the scene in Norway isn't big enough to deserve an own news section anymore, atleast it can't be very interesting to read. Just a small newspart anyway, we only include news that people send us. * *2 [÷] *5.A.P.A.T.H.Y. *2[÷] *6 Dissident joined as coder Carp decided to leave the scene Budgie joined as graphician *1 Memberlist: *5 Punisher WHq, packer, swapper Norway Accede Coder Norway Ash Coder, swapper Poland Dissident Coder Portugal Point Coder Norway Strife Coder Norway Terrix Coder Poland Tomba Coder Poland Whizz Coder, swapper, SHq Sweden * *5 Wizzball Coder England Zeeball Coder Poland Leia Editor Norway Angeldust Graphician, swapper Germany Budgie Graphician Poland Rage Graphician Norway Rebel Graphician, swap, PHq Poland Tentacle Graphician, musician Norway Chriz Musician, swapper Norway Coma Musician, swapper Sweden Cope Musician Norway Enigmus Hammer Musician Norway Maze Musician Norway Terry Musician Poland Voicer Musician, swapper Poland Tiger Packer, swapper Germany Roover Swapper Poland Thung Swapper, ascii-artist Poland Zito Swapper, ascii, GHq Germany * *5 Axl Trader England Case Trader Italy *2 [÷] *5.I.R.I.S. *2[÷] *1 Kickings/Joinings ++: *6 - Matarazzo joined as a graphician from Giants - Sniper left the scene - The EC is now a coproduction of Depth and IRIS - Digger quit Agravedict and rejoined IRIS * *1 Released productions: *6 - The EC39 was released at TP9 - I-Surf, a demo, was released on TP9 - Our homepage: http://www.IRIShq.dk/ *1 IRIS MEMBERLIST (updated 14th December) --------------------------------------- *5 ---->DENMARK<--------------------- -------------------------- ADONIS SWAPPER & PACKER .. .......................... BANDY GRAPHICIAN ........ .......................... DARKHAWK WHQ, EDITOR & SWAP ........... FLOWER MUSICIAN .......... .......................... HASTUR CODER ............. .......................... NUTMAN MUSICIAN .......... .......................... RANSOM RAYTRACER ......... .......................... * *5 SHADOW CODER ............. .......................... TALPA CODER ............. .......................... TRICKTRAX CODER, MUSICIAN ... .......................... YOGI MUSICIAN .......... .......................... ---->NORWAY<---------------------- --------------------------- MJ SWAPPER, TRADER ... .......................... THRYM RAYTRACER ......... ........................... ---->POLAND<---------------------- --------------------------- DIGGER CODER ............. ........................... ---------------------------------- --------------------------- ---->SPAIN<----------------------- --------------------------- JUDAS GRAPHICIAN ........ ........................... ---------------------------------- --------------------------- * *5 ---->SWEDEN<---------------------- --------------------------- MATARAZZO GRAPHICIAN ........ ........................... ---------------------------------- --------------------------- Total Members: 16 Total Countries: 5 *2 [÷] *5.R.N.O. *2[÷] *6 - Kure's email changed: kure@sunpoint.net - Craid joined Haujobb - Roover left for Nah-Kolor - our 40k intro for TP9 will be released later.. * *1 - -÷%[ memberlist ]%÷- - *5 Acidhead ....... music, gfx, trace (Norway) Angeldust ............. gfx, swap (Germany) Chosen Few2 ............... ascii (Germany) Cie ....................... music (Germany) Craid ........... code, co-leader (Germany) Kure ......... leader, music, www (Finland) Romeo ....................... code (Norway) Roz ....................... music (Finland) Tang ...................... music (Finland) TFT .................... co-leader (Norway) Tls ....................... music (Germany) Tmu ....................... sysop (Finland) Tool ...................... sysop (Finland) Tundrah .................... code (Finland) Zubspace ................... music (Norway) total .......................... 15 members * *2 [÷] *5.R.E.A.S.O.N. *2[÷] t o o h o t n e w s [ 2 6 . o 2. o o ] *6 - TRASH [swapper/editor] (last time) changed his nick back to LAHVE *1 a c t u a l m e m b e r l i s t *5 cx8x ............. graphician [yugoslavia] darkus .. graphician/musician [england] factor6 ............ musician [czech] genetix ............ musician [england] god jr ....... coder/musician [yugoslavia] lahve ........ swapper/editor [czech] q plung ............... coder [yugoslavia] *1 new good membahs needed! * *2 [÷] *5.S.E.C.R.E.T.L.Y. *2[÷] *6Tranquilizer left the amigascene and closed our website! Zthee joined as gfx artist some time ago! After he get all intern stuff (gfx, snd, adresses...) he never recntx us, so we we will kick him next time if there is no reply from him up to ms2k! *5DreamCars, a 32k game -> 1st place at ms99 SuperBall, a 32k game -> 3rd place at ms99 Workaholic, a 32k game -> 4th place at ms99 Mermaids2000, a 4ch mod -> 1st place at ms99 Infinty, a 4channel mod -> 2nd place at ms99 * *1 - -÷%[ memberlist ]%÷- - *5 Dandee Sep-1975 PartyGfx DC.Clark Jun-1975 Code/C2P, Gfx, Snd Mr.Vain Jun-1975 Code, Gfx, Snd, Leader StingRay Nov-1974 Code/C2P zthee Jun-1980 Gfx/Dezign *6 We are in a big need of new members, esp. coders and gfx artists! Cntx Mr.Vain if ya want join us ;) ! *1 SECRETLY! *5 "if four registers are not enough!" * *2 [÷] *5.V.O.I.D. *2[÷] *6 Intro called SALT is released *1 Memberlist: *5 Gone Management, Swapping PowerSlave Management, Swapping Punisher Swapping Malmis Gfx and Swapping Voicer Music, Swapping X-Tender Code * *4 ._______. *1Supporter *4 __¡_______¡_________ *5 .*4 _________ / *5. *5 ¦*4 C | / / a r t *5¦ *5 `----*4l______/ / *5-------------' *4 /_______/ *3 Finally the old scandinavian chart had to bite the dust. All you're left with now, is a chart showing who has been feedback's best supporters through the years. I must mention that many musicians have supported with stuff which never got used. The chart is based on the stuff we have used, nothing more! * *5 Best Feedback *4 module-supporters: *5 1. *4Rolex/Depth*1_______________*709 *5 2. *4Cope/Apathy*1_______________*706 *5 3. *4Eliss-D/Cyboman*1___________*705 *4Sh1/NowhereStudios*1________*705 *5 5. *4Raze/Ambrosia*1_____________*704 *4Dr.Avalanche/Chaos Bros*1___*704 *4Coma/Apathy*1_______________*704 *4Terry/Apathy*1______________*704 *4Maze/Apathy*1_______________*704 *5 10. *4Zany/Phuture303*1___________*703 *5 11. *4TheFoxII*1__________________*702 *4TrickTrax/Iris*1____________*702 *4Pow/SunshineProds*1_________*702 *4Isaac/Contraz*1_____________*702 * *5 15. *4Virgill*1___________________*701 *4Ganja/NerveAxis*1___________*701 *4Xhale/DualCrewShining*1_____*701 *4Jerry/Rebels*1______________*701 *4Laxical/Scoopex*1___________*701 *4Zixaq/Ephidrena*1___________*701 *4Pinocchio/Contraz*1_________*701 *4Boo/Spaceballs*1____________*701 *4TheHooligan/Dcs*1___________*701 *4CurtCool/Depth*1____________*701 *4Pam/Da Jormas*1_____________*701 *4Dr.Death/Eltech*1___________*701 *4Jukebox*1___________________*701 *4Marc*1______________________*701 *4Tracky/Apathy*1_____________*701 *4Darkus/NahKolor*1___________*701 *4Radich*1____________________*701 *4Trex*1______________________*701 * *7 that's all folks! *1 thanx once again to all those who supported this time*2! I hope *6YOU *2will support the next issue of *1 ..:*7!*6FeedBack*7!*1:.. *7 _____ __________ _____. ______\_ /_\ _ / |_ \ __/ / \____/ _/ /____\|____\______\ ________| *6 «-*1nM$!*6----------------------» *2 w E d O N ' t c A R e * *6 Fishwave & Seenpoint#10 *1 - --------------------------------------- - *5 Fishwave shocked us all with the rather different Seenpoint issue 10. Is this really the end of this great mag, one of the last true quality productions on the Amiga? Why did it have to end like this? *2After Fishwave's last editorial for the Amiga scene, he leaves us all pretty much in a mess. *5 The FeedBack team decided to force some last words out of this somewhat arrogant character. The guy who has harassed Amiga sceners in issue after issue, to other sceners great amusement. * *6 In his last editorial Fishwave points out that he no longer can afford new Amiga equipment. What is this? Is he in a financial crisis or something? Has he spent all his money on his girlfriend, and saved nothing for new Amiga equipment? *1We found Fishwave in a sleazy pub in Germany after his last Seenpoint release. He seemed to be in another world when we arrived, but took of his headphones when he noticed us. *2 Fishwave wouldn't answer our questions until we had bought him a beer. But by the look of his dirty clothes from the early 80's it was clear that this guy had big money problems, something which he of course denied: * *5Oh I really haven't got any financial problems at all, and girls come and go (the last one has gone, but hey, I am still enjoying life). But the sum for an up-to-date Amiga equipment by far goes beyond what I'd be willing to pay to keep participating in the Amiga scene. If being a scene member is a matter of your hardware, then I better leave. *2 The stench from his old clothes isn't very comfortable to be near, but I light up a cigarette and continue the interview. No wonder his girl left him. *6 If it really is this bad, couldn't you let the sceners sponsor you with an Amiga? Or * *6 at least borrow one from a friend? Tell me you've got at least one good friend left? He leans forward, and whispers something into my ear: *5I have got good friends left (there are many of them, especially in the scene!), but in fact I do not know anyone in the area I live who has got an Amiga with 060. *2Hmm, I can't help feeling sorry for the guy. Not many guys live in such a dirty lowlife neighborhood as he does. But I feel he has let us know enough about his life, and ask a different question: *6Surely the situation of the Amiga scene in this millennium is not good, but will this * *6make it any better? Wouldn't it have been better to team up with some other editors, or even hand the mag over to someone else? Or is Seenpoint yours to keep? *5I do not think that we will repeat the mistakes of RAW. Writers shall not live on the fame of Seenpoint, so giving the mag to others is not thinkable. Also, it is impossible to fill in the gap Sane and Wade have left when leaving the scene. The mag would just be so different at once. Furthermore I do not have the energy to start once again and find the right style. *5If there are writers good enough to take over Seenpoint, they are good enough to make a magazine on their own. * *2It is understandable that Fishwave doesn't want to give away the one thing in his life which has given him respect. In the pub there is little respect to gain for him, in their eyes he's just a filthy lowlife German. I feel we are lucky not having been thrown out yet. *6 Do you really think a mag needs competition? I have only seen one good mag on the pc, and I don't think it has much competition. *5Have you seen a good mag on the PC? I haven't seen anyone that would be comparable to RAW, ROM, Generation or even Seenpoint. Their articles lack Amiga's approach of writing about demos, groups and sceners. * *2I didn't notice it at first, but he avoided to answer if Seenpoint really needed competition to stay alive. With his editorial fresh in mind another question comes to my mind. *6 You don't think the scene has anything more to offer you? Are the sceners left now just some lowlifes? What did the scene offer you earlier? *5The scene and sceners are not the same. The scene is a nice hobby and it offers you things such as "fame" for example. I started from 0 and went up to #1 on the charts - enough fame. Furthermore I have built something up and won the competition against others. This is all you can do in the scene. * *5The only task left is to stay. However I think it is time to move on to new challenges. *5I never said that the current sceners are less worth, I just do not know them. I have no contact to the many Polish groups that are so highly active nor do I know the new generation from Scandinavia or France. And with my lack of motivation I am not interested in making new friends. *2It is quite clear that we are dealing with a guy who has lost all hope and sees no future. *6 Does he find the pc scene attractive? * *5I really do not know, he answers. It has very little of the Amiga scene, but it is the only scene I can join now that I won't be active on Amiga, right? *2Well he could always join the c64 or Atari scene, but that probably wouldn't make his future any brighter now would it? Being a personal friend of Soda I have another question involving soda. *6Did you really think Soda would help you out? Don't you know all he cares about is money and girls? He has already had his moment in the Amiga-scenes spotlight, with his retro. * *5Soda joined because Sane wanted him in the staff. I must admit that I never had much contact with him, but I think he is a good writer. Too bad he joined too late and couldn't work with the Seenpoint staff as it was expected in the first place. *2Yeah it really is a shame. I guess many can't understand why Fishwave ended his mag and career in such a tragic way. *6 Do you think you'll ever regret this, regret what you have done now? *5Perhaps, but that's life. We all do many mistakes, e.g. getting to know that last girl that pushed me high up and let me fall deep. But getting up is what you have to do and look forward. * *1 Now the manager of the pub has had enough of Fishwaves bad smell, and threatens him with a real beating if he doesn't leave. Obviously this is not the first time they're having trouble with Fishwave. *6 Fishwave, cool as always, puts on his headphones again and heads for the door. What is that loud music?? People are staring at the strange bloke passing them. From my corner I recognize the music, it's condom corruption from Spaceballs' "state of the art". He stops at the door and starts yelling "bring the big fat!" and "you're fat fat!" "fat fat!!" to the manager, before he is kicked out the door. * I try to slide unnoticed out the door and run after Fishwave. *6Any final words you might want to add to the interview? *5Please notice that Seenpoint is not dead. We are not releasing an Amiga mag anymore, but we are a kind of group now (with Sane, Wade and me as members) and we are heading to new projects. I can assure you that we have a BIG project running dealing with the Amiga scene, but it is too early to announce anything. *5I never ever left the Amiga scene! I am still in Scoopex and I am also reading magazines and watching some other stuff (at * *5least what's running on my Amiga). I also might write some bytes for some mag out there! But be sure to hear of that new Seenpoint project! *2Finally I must admit, that many of the sceners around today probably have many of the same feelings Fishwave expressed in his editorial. I haven't seen the new Tbl demo myself, although I've seen some other nice stuff. *6 The Amiga survived the millennium bug, but nevertheless, the millennium probably couldn't have started worse for the Amiga scene. The future doesn't look bright at all, especially not for the poor Fishwave. * *4 Maybe this article will ruin the scene! *2What is it, that keeps people in the scene going? *2This is a question I'm sure I and others with me have asked themselves time after time. What is it that keeps me making production after production, writing letter after letter. What is it that makes me even write this very article? I guess it is to find the answer to the question I just made, but will I find it? *5What keeps us glued to these machines of the 80's, and to a scene with roots from the 80's, a scene which surely has grown quite old by now. And all the people who have * *5left, what is it they have discovered that we haven't. Have they found some higher meaning to life than the scene offers them? More and more of the sceners are disappearing, but where do they end up? *2One of the first and very basic rules in the scene, has been that we are doing this for fun, not for the money. But does the scene really offer more fun, than you can get if you're a rich guy who can afford everything? *4Well if the year was 1994 then I guess many would have said yes without a doubt, but how about today, in the year 2000? When the scene is merely a shadow of its earlier days. Is this scene any fun? * *5I think not. The ones that do, are the guys that still participate with own work to the scene, and as we can see, that ain't many these days. There are many others around, but they have lost hope, it's not fun anymore and therefore they don't bother to make anything. Until, the day, it might be fun again. And it won't be fun, until another killer prod hits the scene again, like say tbl's tint or some other of the earlier much appreciated demos. *1It striked me when I was in the military. People wondered what was so good about the amiga, what they were missing out on. Or it was more like they couldn't understand why the fuck I bothered to spend time in front of a shitty computer like that. And now, I * *1don't have the answer anymore. I awaited tp9 to see if maybe this party, once the most popular party of all, could give me an answer. But it really didn't. *3There are no stars around anymore, the winners of the democompo were my very own friends in Ephidrena. Have they become stars now? Maybe in the eyes of newcomers if there are any newcomers around any longer. But in my eyes these guys are not gods like jekyll&hyde and offa&eq once were in my eyes, they're still just the normal funny Ephidrena guys. I remember my first years with the amiga and the amigascene. I thought the popular sceners looked like cool moviestars, because of the cool handles and the work they had made. Through their demos they acted * *3like the coolest people on earth, but to my great disappointment they were pretty much just normal computer freaks with greasy hair and fat glasses. *5The amiga has not made me famous, not made me rich, it hasn't made me anything. Not even more happy than others. My first contact with the amiga, was when I was in a kiosk many years ago, and stole a disk from an amiga-magazine with superfrog on it. From the looks of that disk I knew it would contain something great, I just had to get the computer which I could run this disk in. And it was great too, and I was hooked. Little did I know, that this disk would keep me hooked on this machine for years and years to come. Little did I know that I'd be one * *5of the so called swappers on the scene. In my early days I thought guys like these were really strange, why did they bother? I just went around in my town and got whatever I wanted from friends and soon I knew bunches of guys with amigas in my town. But these guys disappeared, so I ended up as a swapper myself, and it didn't take long before I was as hooked as they once were. Waking up to 6-7 sends in the mailbox was a great start on the day, and if there weren't any it was a disaster. *6It was almost like I didn't have time for friends anymore, who needs normal life when there's something as great as the scene. And I was perfectly happy, it was still the glory days of the amiga, at least in my eyes. It * *6was almost like a fever, I had to collect everything, first it was every game I could get my hands on, then the demos. I had to have them all. Tv suddenly got very boring, the amiga-scene had taken control of my life. *4Now, years later, I find myself in front of the same computer. Nooooo, it isn't over! It can't be! In my desperate attempt to prove there's still life in the scene I release productions, maybe not very good productions, but at least productions. I have to do it! I can't stop, it's impossible. Trapped in the amiga-scene for all eternity. Let me out of here!!!!!!! I want a normal life!! I don't want to be a part of this dying scene!! Take me away from this radioactive 1084s!!! It's over, can't * *4you see? Stop releasing your productions! End this once and for all! Let the amiga die with respect! *2I'm now at a crossroad. The same crossroad I was at back in 1996. Back then I chose to follow the amiga-scene path, and bought myself a blizzard 1230-iv with 16mb ram. I don't think I regret that, as I experienced some great demos which never would've worked on my standard amiga1200. Who knows where I could've been now, if I hadn't done that. Now a choice has to be made again. Do I buy a 060, or do I simply let the scene go... I think some of those who still only have a 030 or less, will go for the last choice. The scene has seen its best days, hasn't it? The last fresh breeze has blown through our * *2scene, and the scene is taking its last few desperate gasps for air to survive. *4Maybe this Millennium can be the start of something new, the start of a better life. And I'm not talking about buying a pc. Maybe it's time to make some money, big money, get to know the important people in this world. Start competing against people in other areas than the scene, like say, tennis, sailing, mountain-climbing, hangliding, maybe it's time to go out there, and experience life on this planet, time to visit america, africa, china, japan, who knows. Only your mind sets the restrictions, and that stuff called money. And of course you'll have to find a gorgeous girl who'll come with you. So while you're earning all that money for your plans, * *4you can always look around for the perfect girl as well. *2So if you're ready for this new life, all you have to worry about, is where you can earn the money. Well, there are ways, there are. You just have to find them. I've found one. And it's a very obvious way, the stock-market. If you just have a small amount of money to invest, you can earn big money in this game. And you don't have to be lucky, you just have to get the right contacts, get the right tips. And the stock-market today in the year 2000 is completely different from the traditional stock-market. You can get all the contacts over the net, you can do all the investments over the net. Of course there's the risk of * *2getting false information, but if you just watch the game from the sideline before you start putting your own money into it, I'm sure you'll learn how to survive. The only problem I can see is that you might not find this interesting at all, you might find this boring. Much more boring than the good old amiga scene. But the opportunity is there.. *5On my first investment which I made a couple of months ago, I made 100% on my money during two weeks. That was a lucky strike, but making 10% on your money during a week is no problem, even sometimes 10% during a day is easy. You just have to make the right moves. * *2So you can take my advice and try out a different life, or... you can stick to your amiga. *5It sucks to be part of a dying scene... *7Yours, *5 strife of *4apathy*5. * *5 "I'm ashamed to say it, but, I'm a scener!" *1Yes my darker side, known as strife of apathy, is something I try not to mention to 'normal' people, especially not girls! *4Don't you just hate it, when people ask what you do? You can't very well tell them you're an amiga freak hooked on an ancient machine, now can you? If you do tell them something like this, then most likely they won't take you for a computer freak, they'll just take you for a freak. And who wants to be a fucking freak? Not me! *5The scene is a 80's and 90's phenomena, the sceners of this millennium, are just old hippies, guys that do their best to hide * *5their identity while they're out among non-sceners. Why is it that we suddenly are embarressed of our scene? *4One reason, is probably the amiga itself. This machine is starting to look really old and ugly. It's not something that will make your living room look nice, most amigas probably look like piles of junk, with cables and loose hd's and cd-drives all over the place. And if you've managed to put it in a tower, it's some HUGE freaked out tower making you look like the worst computer nerd in town. *1I went to TheGathering99 without my amiga. If you don't need to work on productions at a party, then why the hell bring an amiga? * *5What can you do on an amiga in 2000, at a party? The only thing which pops into mind, is to watch old demos and think of the good old times. *1But just to give it a thought, what did the guys at tg99 that had amigas with them do? They either used telnet to some bbs, they chatted on irc, they tried to fix errors on their hd, they tryed to clean up their hd, they worked on some production, or they just looked at the shit and moved the mouse. *4Here's a stupid idea! What if the amiga-guys at partys start to make their own compos. It could be as simple as getting highscores in some game, say SlamTilt or beating the shit out of some other scener in MortalKombat2. * *4 With some creativity we could have other much more interresting compos. *1Sceners could do boxing in real life, say frequent/ephidrena versus mj/iris. Obviously it would end with freqent biting mj's ear off. And while we're at it, why not do wrestling with spaceballs versus dajormas. Wouldn't you love to see dajormas doing a body slam on slummy/spaceballs? *5No but seriously, at partys you really ought to do other things than to sit infront of the computer. At tg an obvious thing to do would be to play the laser games there. And since there are so many girls at tg now, hell why not get hold of some girls and go out on a pub or disco or whatever. Or take them to * *5the tg-cinema and see who can get laid first. Great compos man, with lifelasting memories! *4But when an amigascener arrives at a party like tg, he just starts to walk around and stare at all the pc's and get depressed at once. And just goes around feeling all lonely, and talk to other depressed amigasceners about the good old days. And then release some stuff in the compo just to show people there's still strange people that use time on this computer. Come on, is this a party? *1No wonder there are less and less amiga guys at partys. Because this is not how we want a party to be! Any party can be great, a party is what you make of it yourself. You can't * *1really blame the organizers for a lousy party, blame the amiga scene itself! It's the amiga scene that is lousy, not the party organizers. *4So this is why I'm not very proud of being an amiga scener any more. Because it is all getting very boring. And I almost feel that I'm wasting my time in this scene, I feel it hasn't got anything more to give me. Being a famous character in the amiga scene, can't be any exciting today. Well I don't know. *5Anyway, it seems to me that the iris guys are able to do a lot of cool stuff at their own partys. Or maybe I'm wrong, maybe they just smoke pot and get drunk and then just think of the good old days like all the others. * *5Don't you guys want to do other stuff than making prods? I heard some polish sceners maybe would come to norway this summer, to visit some of us norwegian sceners. Great idea! Sceners really should start to organize alternative partys! Why the hell can't sceners do a party in Ibiza? :) *1Now ofcourse we could do other stuff than just partys, we could for example do a trip through europe to visit different sceners. How about that? Now here's another tip! There should be more partys in the summer!! That's when we have time to go away to another country. Well I'm open for suggestions this summer, in the meanwhile I'm saving up some money. And until the scene * *1gets more fun and alive, I'm not telling people I'm an amiga scener. :) *4So go on and use some of that thing called creativity and make this scene more interresting to be in! * *7 What kind of a life do we want? *6There are so many directions to choose between when you're making up your life. But how many actually make up a straight line and work hard to achieve their goals? How many even bothers to use some time to discover what they can do with their life? *1I think that most decisions people make, are the easiest decisions available to them. People don't really care what they do, they just do something and choose something. Most people don't care who their friends are, they just bump into some guys and they become friends. I guess it is the same for many when they are on the lookout for girls. They just bump into some girl and think, hey she's nice enough, why not. * *5But where's the fun in this? Shouldn't life be a bit complicated, shouldn't we set goals to strive after to achieve? Doesn't anyone believe in the saying: "If you just put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything!" *1Let me take an example here, myself! I'm 20 years old, the world is lying for my feet, ready to be conquered. But I have chosen the easy path, right from the start. I'm studying at the nearest school, studying to become the same as my dad, a computer engineer. How typical! I've saved money up through the years for my education, but I've chosen the easy path, I live in my dads house, it takes me 10minutes to get to the school, this education don't cost me shit. Why did I save up that money? * *6I guess you can put the humans of today into two main groups. You have the ones who don't give a shit and watch TV, work some place, and got some kind of marriage going on. Then you have the people that want to become something, that want to achieve things. Most likely both these groups of people want to earn as much money as possible, but isn't it most likely that only the ones in the last group are the successful ones? *1Your life will become what you make out of it. To make this comparable to the amiga scene, let us say you've been sitting with a shitty amiga for many years. Why don't you buy a better one? Surely this would make your life just that tiny bit more better. Of course it's a case of money,you don't want * *1to spend more money on an old computer like this. But think of it, aren't you going to stick to your amiga for a couple of more years? I'm sure most of us can afford a better amiga, we just feel it's a waste of money. But is it? *5Back to the bigger picture. What kind of a life do you want? Do you want the standard safe life, a small house, an ok wife and some ok kids, an ok job? Or do you want something a bit more challenging? Won't life be very boring if there are no challenges? I think so. *4Maybe you thought I was just some apathetic guy because of my group Apathy, but I'm not. I want to achieve things, I'm just not sure * *4of what to achieve yet. One thing is for sure, I want money, more money than the average guy. But I also want to get to know good friends like the average guy has, and maybe even keep them for a while. Or, Hmm, no shit I don't know what I want. One thing is for sure, I do not want to make shitty prods for the amiga scene the rest of my life. But I still want to have you all as friends. Is this possible? *1I'm really wondering which path to follow. Should I take the safe path and just take an education which will give me a job and enough money to survive. Or, should I take more risks, and maybe get to live the great life most people just dream of? * *6Of course this article was just a filler, since most of the other amiga sceners hardly would bother to help me out. Seems like you all have your own precious lifes to care about, don't you? :) *7Is the scene today still friendly? I don't think so, I think we all think the others are stupid to keep on staying with this computer. Boy you're stupid!! Just as stupid as me! * *5 Groundbreaking news for the millennium! *1 Great news from every corner of the amiga- scene is flourishing in the beginning of this millennium. It's almost too good to be true, you're probably wondering why so little is getting released right now, well, we have the answers. *4It all started, when jekyll called his mate hyde in andromeda January 2000. His amiga had survived the millennium change, and so had all his unreleased sources. They have both decided to make the number one killer demo of this millennium, like their nexus7 was the last millenniums killer demo. * *4 When Lord Helmet heard this, he at once pulled his amiga out from the dust, and is now spending all his time on a new issue of Raw. You'll be seeing so much Andromeda bullshit articles you'll hardly be able to believe your eyes. *1Offa and Eq didn't know about this before we informed them, but they are not going to be remembered as the guys that almost got as famous as andromeda. They are now working on a demo which they believe will beat the shit out of the andromeda demo, as they put it. *5Meanwhile, when the rumour reached germany azure got all fired up. With the silver medal from his last fight against tbl fresh in mind, he has now sworn to make revenge. * *5 He has been working on a killer demo for the last five years, it's actually almost finished, and he can't wait to beat both andromeda and tbl. *1 When Skarla heard of this, they understood they had to teem up with Essence again should they stand a chance to be among the top ten demo-entries at thegathering'2000. Yes that's right, it's all gonna blast off at easter in the famous viking ship in norway. The crusaders have anounced that they too are working on an amigademo, which ofcourse is understandable when the prizemoney estimates to 50.000$. * *4 Just to make the game harder, the compo machine will be just an a1200 030 50mhz with no fpu. This is how the majority of the groups making demos wanted it, and hyde comments the case: *5 I can't wait to show the people what I am able to pull out of the 030! Floppy can just go in the corner and be ashamed! Real hardcore coders don't need 060's! Remember what I could do with a standard 1200, a 030 will do wonders to my code! *1 Earliar rivals Loaderror/Ephidrena and Slummy/Spaceballs have decided to team up, winning tp9 was a piece of cake compared to the bloodbath this is going to be, loaderror comments. Winning tg99 also was a piece of cake slummy adds. The winner of tg'2000 * *4 will be remembered as the best group ever, this is something we have got to give our best shot! Finally an opportunity to show that we are just as good as the old legends, the two says! *5 When fishwave heard that Raw is opening up again, he got very scared. "Ohh no! I thought seenpoint was going to be remembered as the last quality mag-release on the amiga!" Fishwave is now certain that we will see a seenpoint#11, and it will be better than raw#10 he says, no matter how good Raw#10 will turn out to be. *1Meanwhile DISC by gods has been in the making for several years now, and for a reason. It's going to blast your head off they scream. * *1 Scheduled release is for tg2000, and they will make it! *4 Needless to say, all the other famous mags are also being blown life into again. *5Louie is now painting the most sexy girl you could ever imagine, he is certain to win! "The only problem is", he says, "that I get so horny I have to wank off every 5 minutes while drawing her." *1 With all this fuzz in the amiga scene, all the old demogroups are waking up again, and most likely there will be over 50 demos released at tg'2000! Rumours has it there will be more than 2megabytes of 4k intros competing, and Nature says they have the winning 64k intro ready, but little do they * *4know of the fierce competition they probably will get from every other group that have graced the amiga scene up through the years. *5 I even heard Budbrain#3 is in the making, and the guys behind it are certain that this style of a demo will be just as popular as it once was. They are ofcourse hoping the few pc lamers/newcomers at the party will vote for them. But if you should want a ticket for thegathering2000 you have to hurry, more than 3000 amigasceners have allready reserved tickets. I guess it is needless to say that the few pc guys that might turn up are risking their life, who knows what the crazy amiga sceners will do to them when they start their party. * *5 This is gonna be the ultimate party of our entire life, tg2000 is the place, don't miss out on it. Many guys thought 2000 was going to be the worst year for the amiga scene, now it's turning out to be the best year ever. *1Lets party!!!!!!!!! * *4 Hey who are you?? What are you doing? *1 Get off of me! Noo don't pinch my arm! *5 Oh my god! Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo! * *1 __ ¡ 7 ____ _____ _________|_l___ ___,____ / _ 7/ _ 7 / _ 7__ ___/__ \ ¡ / / _/ | _/ |/ _/ |_/ 7| \ \ l / /__\ / \___j__\ /\ |l___\___\_ / aln \/ ¡ \/ `--' __/ / \__j *2 a p a t h y *1 \___/ *3 Is too little happening in your group? *4 Haven't you got the right guys to co- operate with to get your stuff released? *5 Isn't your group friendly enough? *6Isn't the contact in your group good enough? *7 Isn't your group serious enough? *2 Then why not get in touch with the Apathy organizers! * *2 We have Headquarters in Norway, Sweden, Poland and Germany , you are welcome to contact any of them. *5 We have plenty of projects going on, we are 100% committed to the amiga scene. We are broadening our minds, we have more than 5 years of experience. We are open for co-operations. *2 We are going to be the last ones that quit the amiga scene. What nonsense, the scene will never die! *6Apathy - We don't give a fuck about Bill and his world of pc users. Neither should you. * *2 World Headquarter: *5 Punisher/Apathy Jonas O'Brien Huvikveien 32B 3222 Sandefjord Norway *2 German Headquarter: *5 Zito/Apathy PF 100522 04005 Leipzig Germany * *2 Polish Headquarter: *5 Rebel/Apathy Robert Bielenis Patrycego 34 78200 Bialogard Poland *2 Swedish Headquarter: *5 Whizz/Apathy Fredrik Stridh Hyltaskogsvagen 88 274 37 Skurup Sweden *2 Internet Headquarter: *5 strifeapt@hotmail.com * *2 __ ¡ 7 ____ _____ _________|_l___ ___,____ / _ 7/ _ 7 / _ 7__ ___/__ \ ¡ / / _/ | _/ |/ _/ |_/ 7| \ \ l / /__\ / \___j__\ /\ |l___\___\_ / aln \/ ¡ \/ `--' __/ / \__j *5 a p a t h y *2 \___/ *7 We Don't Fucking Care! * *4 ._______. *1S w a p p e r *4 __¡_______¡_________ *5 .*4 _________ / *5. *5 ¦*4 C | / / a r t *5¦ *5 `----*4l______/ / *5-------------' *4 /_______/ *2 - Best swapper year 2000 chart - *3 This chart was originally published in Dreams#24, released in the beginning of 2000. We decided to release it in FeedBack#7 as well, since we believe that not every scener has seen dreams issue #24 *2 Number of votesheets collected..: *458! * *5 Best Swappers *4 of the year 2000: *5 1. *4Renton/Nah-Kolor*1__________*7185 *5 2. *4Punisher/Darkage*1__________*7144 *5 3. *4Evan/DCS+MAWI*1_____________*7123 *5 4. *4Azzaro/Embassy+MAWI*1_______*7098 *5 *4Carp/Apathy+Whelpz*1________*7098 *5 5. *4Thunder/Scoopex*1___________*7071 *5 6. *4Budgie/Dreamweb*1___________*7055 *5 7. *4The Hooligan/DCS*1__________*7053 *5 8. *4Guffaw/Giants+RNO*1_________*7048 *5 9. *4Curt Cool/Depth*1___________*7047 *5 10. *4Heatwave/Depth*1____________*7042 * *1 v o t e r s *7 ----------- *2 Greetings and thanks must go to the following people for filling out the votesheet for this chart: *4 Adonis/IRIS *5 Amifan/Garbage+Terror13 *4 Angeldust/Apathy+RNO *5 Ash!/Apathy+Decree+Weeds *4 Azzaro/Embassy+MAWI *5 BipBip/Fresh *4 Bucko/Area51+Depth *5 Budgie/Dreamweb *4 Carp/Apathy+Whelpz *5 Case/Faction+Nah-Kolor *4 Cave/Narco Brothers * *5 Chriz/Massive *4 Curt Cool/Depth *5 Darkhawk/IRIS *4 Darklight/Veezya *5 Darkus/Haujobb *4 Decoy/Scoopex *5 Deus Docet/Intense *4 Dire/Eremation *5 Dr.Tiki/Lamahtron *4 Duckhunter/Spaceballs *5 Enigmus Hammer/Apathy *4 Evan/DCS+Nah-Kolor *5 Firestarter/IRIS *4 Guffaw/Giants+RNO *5 Hawk/Giants *4 Haze/Absurd *5 Heatwave/Depth *4 Idaho/Potion * *5 Igor/Retroactive *4 Jim/MAWI+Old Bulls *5 Juen/Harvester *4 Kempy/K0re+Moons+Veezya *5 Lothar/Moons *4 Melfis/Red Vision *5 MJ/IRIS *4 Mr.X/Retro *5 Nork/Darkage+Network *4 Pesti/Nah-Kolor *5 Point/Apathy *4 Powerslave/Void *5 Punisher/Apathy+Darkage *4 Rebel/Veezya *5 Roover/Decree *4 Splatterhead/Scoopex *5 Starbyte/Indy *4 Strife/Apathy * *5 The Hooligan/DCS *4 The Lawnmover Man/Darkage *5 Thunder/Scoopex *4 Tomak/Indy *5 Tomba/Potion *4 Twister/Garbage+Veezya *5 Venom/High Voltage *4 Weirdo/Network *5 Whitecross/Indy *4 Whizz/Apathy *5 Zito/Apathy+Layout *1 Thanks a lot guys*2! 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